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on high income people, if we raise taxes for the fiscal cliff or for debt ceiling, do you believe the will also raise taxes on middle class. 60% percent of americans understand that once the politicians get the bloodlust out there, once they smell the blood in the water, once they raise taxes on the few, they go after the many. melissa: oh, i absolutely believe that's right but i think that the point is the republicans are losing momentum on the side of not raising taxes. that it is starting to feel more and more like there must be some concession, there must be some caving to get through the fiscal cliff. when you look at senators who have said they're going back on the pledge, lindsey graham, bob corker, tom coburn, lamar alexander, eric cantor, what do you do at this point to keep the fight going? or do you think that it is necessary to concede a little bit of ground? >> well, two things. the senators, the republican senators to a certain extent don't matter because the democratic senate can pass a tax increase if they want the senaaors you mentioned would only vote for a tax incre
on high income people, if we raise taxes for the fiscal cliff or for debt ceiling, do you believe the will also raise taxes on middle class. 60% percent of americans understand that once the politicians get the bloodlust out there, once they smell the blood in the water, once they raise taxes on the few, they go after the many. melissa: oh, i absolutely believe that's right but i think that the point is the republicans are losing momentum on the side of not raising taxes. that it is starting to...
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all right, stocks closely watching the fiscal cliff talks. coming up, chief investment officer will tell us what will happen if there is a deal where if there is no deal. ashley: michael bloomberg crack a joke the only people buying egos. he could soon become one of those. as it everyday at this time, take a look at how oil is trading moving slightly lower even though the suggestion demand from china is off, oil down slightly by $0.10, 85.83 per barrel. tracy: it is time to make some money with charles payne. this hour he is looking at online networking site linked in. getting a little bounce, but has been on a tear. charles: this is a incredible stock. you put six flights out of business. i'm telling you right now. today part of the reason it is up, kind of odd, some sort of stock speculation mayor bloomberg may be interested in doing something, taking it over. even without that, this is a stock i like a lot. at least the third time this year my subscribers are in a stock. the latter earning report my two cents coby district by 100%, the sto
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, and then the fiscal cliff. susan, thank you very much. we appreciate it, michael. thank you, doug. great to have you with us. now for your comments,
, and then the fiscal cliff. susan, thank you very much. we appreciate it, michael. thank you, doug. great to have you with us. now for your comments,
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the president in his own words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains and dividend 18.8%, and a new tax on hospital care, and medical device manufacturersing' taxed 2.3% of the price of their products. americans get a tax deduction if their medical expenses exceed 7.5% of their total ince that number rising to 10% for everyone under the age of 65. and government, for first time ever sending a limit on tax free exible spending accounts, joint committee tax, estimates those 5 new provisions amount to $2 60 billion tax hike over next 7 years, president obama, avoid anything real negotiating on fiscal cliff issue, president doubles the amount of tax hikes he campaigned on when
the president in his own words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains...
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refund the fiscal cliff. it is a tax rate that is increasingly seen as unfair. it is willy-nilly. they say that they are increasing the number of people are insured. and they say wait a second, that's not how it works. charles: the same argument that they use, by the same token, it is so odd that they singled out medical device makers and tanning salons are it is like -- what the heck? singh that we need to go after those nefarious medical devices. we need to get those guys. charles: you know, at some point, people have to understand. great innovation and breakthroughs will be delayed. it is hard to calculate how many, but there is no doubt that this will end up killing people. >> the issue is with venture capitalism, it's already pulled back. a 42% plunge in funding of medical device makers since last year. already companies like stryker announcing job layoffs. whether we see this as part of the fiscal cliff deal, we are pushing for it. charles: at some point they do need to address this. this hurts every si
refund the fiscal cliff. it is a tax rate that is increasingly seen as unfair. it is willy-nilly. they say that they are increasing the number of people are insured. and they say wait a second, that's not how it works. charles: the same argument that they use, by the same token, it is so odd that they singled out medical device makers and tanning salons are it is like -- what the heck? singh that we need to go after those nefarious medical devices. we need to get those guys. charles: you know,...
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sandra: this is not good news as we face a fiscal cliff. a lot of folks face potentially higher taxes in the new year and higher health care costs. you're making reasoning behind this very simple. that is that their costs are going up. they're expecting an influx of new patients to becoming in. that leads naturally to the question do we expect others to follow in their footsteps? >> i think it is quite possible. judging what happens to blue shield, how beat up they get in the public media, what other insurance companies will do. we've already seen employers without insurance that are self-insured like wal-mart begin to do this. everybody is sort of covering their bet now, not knowing the impact of the new requirements under the affordable care act. sandra: so it's safe to say in the new year we could all face higher health care cost, is that reasonable? >> i think it is very predictable you should expect your premiums to go up as people try to respond to the unknown. sandra: thank you, sir. add that to the list of cost going up in the new y
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cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frighted republicans that the debate is not just about raising taxes on the rich. >> the truth is everybody needs to take more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of the deficit problem unless we raise taxes acss the board. to go back to what bill clinton had. >> now, some liberals pushed the president to invoke the 14th amendment claiming that gives him the executive power to raise the debt limit himself, but jay said today the white house studied that proposition and decided the president does not have that executive power meang we headed for another show down with congressver raising the debt ceiling. lou: the fiscal cliff and now a new ultimatum on the national debt ceiling. you suppose this is the last condition? >> it's going to be a wild couple of months, maybe everybody thought with the election over, there was going to be peace and fure all of this out, bui think we're jus
cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frighted republicans that the debate is not just about raising taxes on the rich. >> the truth is everybody needs to take more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of the deficit problem unless we raise taxes acss the board. to go back to what bill clinton had. >> now, some liberals pushed the president to invoke the 14th amendment claiming...
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in 2013 regardless if we drive off the fiscal cliff or not. it is force the nation's hardest workers believe it or not cough up more dough. the country's wealthiest put uncle sam competence forever. joining us now. the government made all his mistakes, so the really wealthy people can pay for it all. speak the whole point is it can fit the bill. we'll add $10 trillion of debt, doesn't obama taught no tax increases. we're talking cover the debt over that time. it is not enough to prevent a debt crisis down the line. tracy: we have seen it time and time again. thougthe ability to wealth if yu have access to important people. they don't have to pay taxes after all. >> people don't work as hard as ithey otherwise would have, dont take risks so don't get the growth have not raised taxes. i think that's what would happen if we went with president obama's plan. they come it will not grow as fast as it would have. speetracy: inevitably our taxesl go up because the wealthy do not pay as much as they thought. >> there's not enough revenue at the top to
in 2013 regardless if we drive off the fiscal cliff or not. it is force the nation's hardest workers believe it or not cough up more dough. the country's wealthiest put uncle sam competence forever. joining us now. the government made all his mistakes, so the really wealthy people can pay for it all. speak the whole point is it can fit the bill. we'll add $10 trillion of debt, doesn't obama taught no tax increases. we're talking cover the debt over that time. it is not enough to prevent a debt...
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but the special dividend, ahead of this, this fiscal tax, cliff tax cliff. lori: we're with you. >> not going to happen. just not going to happen. there is no incentive to do so. lori: except for the fact shares evaporated so much from the $700 peak, right? >> yeah. the special dividend shows some assertiveness, financial strength, yes we have all the cash we can put it to work. at this point over the last three months apple shares have been down 17%. i think it is coming into question whether apple is the same apple that it was five years ago. melissa: for sure. >> it could certainly signal something but not going to happen right now. lori: appreciate that report. thanks, shibani. melissa: as more investors look for inflation hedges, hedge funds and endowments are hiding or adding hard assets to their stock portfolio. one to look at is medallion financial. robert gray spoke exclusively with the company's president. >> that's right, melissa. you can literally hail it as a public proxy for assets whose meter is running higher than other asset classes for deca
but the special dividend, ahead of this, this fiscal tax, cliff tax cliff. lori: we're with you. >> not going to happen. just not going to happen. there is no incentive to do so. lori: except for the fact shares evaporated so much from the $700 peak, right? >> yeah. the special dividend shows some assertiveness, financial strength, yes we have all the cash we can put it to work. at this point over the last three months apple shares have been down 17%. i think it is coming into...
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they say we are over the fiscal cliff, unless tax rates go up. the sign will come from the fed. we will know in the next 90 minutes. former atlanta fed joins us now. how is the decision connected, do you think, to the fiscal cliff? >> it has to do with balancing risks. they do not want to risk the recovery that we have underway already, even though it is slow. i expect two things. first, they will not change policy. they will continue quantitative easing. they will probably stop operation twist. simply because they do not have anyone short-term securities of any significance to sell. they will continue the asset buying programs as a hedge against going over the cliff. connell: all these names that we have become familiar with, you mentioned operation twist and quantitative easing, one, two, three, the speculation about four. basically, easy on it. policy. you are telling us, and a lot of people expect, they are worried about what the fiscal people are doing or not doing. >> they do not have to with interest rates so low. >> well, that is the trade-off. a lot of people think that
they say we are over the fiscal cliff, unless tax rates go up. the sign will come from the fed. we will know in the next 90 minutes. former atlanta fed joins us now. how is the decision connected, do you think, to the fiscal cliff? >> it has to do with balancing risks. they do not want to risk the recovery that we have underway already, even though it is slow. i expect two things. first, they will not change policy. they will continue quantitative easing. they will probably stop operation...
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irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terroris. mexican drug cartels, african dictators, all of the really nice people tht they had no idea where problem. by the way, nobody going to jail will be taking that up. we will have coming up next. tracy: all right, "lou dobbs tonight" at 7:00 p.m. and :00 p.m. eastern. when we come back, how to beat the street. covering your assets with tips with picking winners on wall street. stay with us .racy: earnings season kicks off tracy: where has the time gone? earnings season kicks off in less than a month from now. here with advice on how to pick stocks for earnings, we have the author of the options handbook. before we get intoall
irrespective of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terroris. mexican drug cartels, african...
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cliff or what we should do about tax increases and spending cuts. if mr. boehner is the principal negotiator, what he had to say lasted all of 30 seconds. he simply came out and said look, if the president doesn't agree with our plan, the republican plan, he should submit a plan that could pass through congress. he has failed to do that. he said, however, and he used these words, that speaker boehner and the republicans are ready and eager to negotiate with the president. doesn't sound like there's any degree of compromise there. there's an extremely short statement, really didn't say much of anything. that's it, speaker boehner. mr. cantor is now speaking. again, he's keeping it very very short and very much to the point. but the principal negotiator had all of 30 seconds. that's it. we brought it to you live. >>> back to the judge. >> well i was sort of hoping he would say no new taxes no new spending no new borrowing, draw a line in the sand, do what you were sent there to do. they are becoming enablering of obama -- they are becoming enablers ob
cliff or what we should do about tax increases and spending cuts. if mr. boehner is the principal negotiator, what he had to say lasted all of 30 seconds. he simply came out and said look, if the president doesn't agree with our plan, the republican plan, he should submit a plan that could pass through congress. he has failed to do that. he said, however, and he used these words, that speaker boehner and the republicans are ready and eager to negotiate with the president. doesn't sound like...
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in regard to the fiscal cliff, i think the right thing to do is to let the tax rates go up across the board, just like they agreed to do. i think we ought to have middle income americans as well as high income americans having a reduction of those tax rate cuts we saw. tracy: take more from my paycheck, let the fed put money into the system. does it make sense at the end of the day? shouldn't i keep my money, g out there and spend it and let the fed keep theirs? >> well, that's, you got a good point, and i agree that instabilit and monetary policy is not very effective, and so i' not looking for very much from the fed tomorrow. tracy: no, yao not alone, sir. wayne, former fed reserve governor, thanks for taking the time. >> you're welcom. tracy: all right. well, if you are fired up about this or any of theissues on the program, drop the show an e-mail at gerri@foxbusiness.com. >>> coming up on "the willis report," house speaker boehner and the republican accusing president obama of kicking the can down the road. >> t longer they slow down the process, the closer our economy gets to th
in regard to the fiscal cliff, i think the right thing to do is to let the tax rates go up across the board, just like they agreed to do. i think we ought to have middle income americans as well as high income americans having a reduction of those tax rate cuts we saw. tracy: take more from my paycheck, let the fed put money into the system. does it make sense at the end of the day? shouldn't i keep my money, g out there and spend it and let the fed keep theirs? >> well, that's, you got a...
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up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economist for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it
up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less...
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but i would say that the fiscal cliff disssions are definitely not helping. i think consumers see the implications of tax reduction, for example, coming off -- lou: what would that do to the market if it were to be implemente >> well, i think it'll definitely hurt the market, and i tnk i would not recomme doing that at this stage of recovery. lou: somehow i thought that would be your answer, as it would be for most homeowners who have gotten us to that deduction. >> sure. lou: sanj, great to have you. >> my pleasure. lou: sony's "skyfall" retained the top spot. the james bond movie took in another 11 million liing its domestic total to morehan 26161 million worldwide. "skyfallhas brought in more than $900 million so far, that makes it son highest-grossin film in history. the film, by the way, will open in china early next year which should boost those numbers, i would guess, a little. the movie "rise of the guardians," it was send with $10.5 million in sales. a really quiet weekend. twilht's breaking dawn part 2 taking third place, it brought in more than $9
but i would say that the fiscal cliff disssions are definitely not helping. i think consumers see the implications of tax reduction, for example, coming off -- lou: what would that do to the market if it were to be implemente >> well, i think it'll definitely hurt the market, and i tnk i would not recomme doing that at this stage of recovery. lou: somehow i thought that would be your answer, as it would be for most homeowners who have gotten us to that deduction. >> sure. lou: sanj,...
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up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's iefonomist, and deuche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewas for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark rd! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settleor less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're onef them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&00 posting gains in december,
up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's iefonomist, and deuche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewas for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark rd! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settleor less? great businesses deserve great rewards!...
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all right, do you think we are headed off the fiscal cliff? let us know. give us an e-mail at gerri@foxbussiness.com. >> coming up on "the willis report", tax dollars have bailed out these workers. we have the shocking findings of a new report coming up next. also, for those fed up with apple's disaster mapping system, google maps is back in business for your iphone. details coming up later. also, they say no news is good news. but this you will definitely want to hear. new evidence of obamacare doing more harm than good to your bottom-line. we will have the latest and we are on the case next in "the willis report." speed. tracy: fannie mae and anyone sparking outrage over six-figure salaries. many executives are raking in serious money. these agencies have accrued $138 billion in taxpayer funding. they still owe us $137 billion of that. for more on this, let's bring in rich edson. a former executive vice president. he is now president and fellow -- excuse me, resident fellow at the american enterprise institute. these salaries are really bothering a lot o
all right, do you think we are headed off the fiscal cliff? let us know. give us an e-mail at gerri@foxbussiness.com. >> coming up on "the willis report", tax dollars have bailed out these workers. we have the shocking findings of a new report coming up next. also, for those fed up with apple's disaster mapping system, google maps is back in business for your iphone. details coming up later. also, they say no news is good news. but this you will definitely want to hear. new...
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i do not want us to go off the fiscal cliff, congress created in a bipartisan way this is the result of the last fiscal cliff. neil: both sides agreed. >> i voted against it, it was a bad idea, why create artificial crises to force action. neil: they did. >> now the country -- now they want to do it again, now let's hurt growth in economy, and cut a deal that hurts growth,o from a year from now we'll have a worse fiscal cliff. we have a 16 trillion-dollar debt. these tax increases do nothing to self, you have 200,000 less jobs next year for, that those who vote for that will be held responsible for that decision. neil: is it terrible public policy if you leave off the table. what accounts the majority of spending off the table. if you leave out medicare, and medicaid, and don't even pry to bridge up -- try to bring up social security, 8 democratic members and congressmen marked that, don't touch these entitlements, one of next. ♪ [ gine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz winter ent back, with the perfect vehicle that's just right for you, no matter which list you'r
i do not want us to go off the fiscal cliff, congress created in a bipartisan way this is the result of the last fiscal cliff. neil: both sides agreed. >> i voted against it, it was a bad idea, why create artificial crises to force action. neil: they did. >> now the country -- now they want to do it again, now let's hurt growth in economy, and cut a deal that hurts growth,o from a year from now we'll have a worse fiscal cliff. we have a 16 trillion-dollar debt. these tax increases...
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with talks of cgress limiting the charitable tax deduction as part of the fiscal cliff negotiation will this ar be any different? we have the head of charity navigator with me now. ken, we were talking during the break, there has been, you've seen increasing contributions to charities this year because of that fiscal cliff. what do you see? >> we've seen some larger charities have seen as much as 7 or 8% increase in donations whereas some of the smaller charities they're still struggling and donations are somewhat level from last year. gerri: you know, people have this on the front of mind. this is traditionalime of year you make your contributions and this year more than ever i think people are thinking their dollar will go further because of the possible changes in taxes. what is the one thing you would tell folks this year about chartable giving? what do they need to think about or remember this year? >> they need to remember that even now more than every charities really need their help. there is more of a demand because of unemployment, because of other challenges out there, disast
with talks of cgress limiting the charitable tax deduction as part of the fiscal cliff negotiation will this ar be any different? we have the head of charity navigator with me now. ken, we were talking during the break, there has been, you've seen increasing contributions to charities this year because of that fiscal cliff. what do you see? >> we've seen some larger charities have seen as much as 7 or 8% increase in donations whereas some of the smaller charities they're still struggling...
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>> the whole thing with the tax increase is a red herring for the fiscal cliff discussions because we need entitlement reform. people have spoken and are not interested in anything. their focus is tax the riff, but people are going to make decisions, but that's put off into the future. you will still see momentum from a positive housing cycle, all the things the fed are doing, catch up? eventually hurt the economy, hurt in a very big way, but not out of the gate. cheryl: 25% of gdp spent, and you say it's going higher and we have a spending problem. >> i totally believe wholeheartedly independent, absolutely in the g.o.p. camp. this whole discussion is absolute crazy. that 25% is going to 40%, and increasing taxes on the riching thing -- accounts for nine days of spending. craziness. cheryl: we have a president who is in the financially responsible, and that, in your opinion, the g.o.p. will cave more than they want to because they know they will get blamed if we get down to new year's eve and there's no deal. >> the world has spoken. tax the rich, keep the ball, there's nothing that'
>> the whole thing with the tax increase is a red herring for the fiscal cliff discussions because we need entitlement reform. people have spoken and are not interested in anything. their focus is tax the riff, but people are going to make decisions, but that's put off into the future. you will still see momentum from a positive housing cycle, all the things the fed are doing, catch up? eventually hurt the economy, hurt in a very big way, but not out of the gate. cheryl: 25% of gdp spent,...
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up ext, the fiscal cliff. it is hung up on tax forthe rich. not really. we will tell you why those taxes argoing upregardless othe deal. torrow, formeru.s. ambsador to the unite nations, moody's keep -- chief eonomists. st-selling author among our guest. please be th us. and as we go to break, here's a little christmas cheer. ♪ lou: prgress on avoiding the fiscal clifford appears to be, ll, stifled. it turns up the president is hitting the rich with tax increases regardless. the internal revenueservice releasg 159 new regulations and rules, heading investment income and wages for high income individuals. these regulationspassed has thing to do, of course, with the fiscal cliff and everything to d with obamacare, including a almost 4 percent surtax on capital gains and dividends, plus almost 1 percent tax on the new tax is estmated to. generate threonine 117 billion over ten years, just about 12 percent of the two and a half trilon the budget committee estimatethe law will cost of that time. here we go. 2013 looks le an interesting, interesting yer. this
up ext, the fiscal cliff. it is hung up on tax forthe rich. not really. we will tell you why those taxes argoing upregardless othe deal. torrow, formeru.s. ambsador to the unite nations, moody's keep -- chief eonomists. st-selling author among our guest. please be th us. and as we go to break, here's a little christmas cheer. ♪ lou: prgress on avoiding the fiscal clifford appears to be, ll, stifled. it turns up the president is hitting the rich with tax increases regardless. the internal...
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my next guest is concerned that we are going over the fiscal cliff. he says, president obama seemingly is intent on pressing his post-election advantage to win tax increases on the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of th financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe they're going over the cliff. >> i think their is a real danger of this. one can see a path for obaa that does not look so terrible if we do go over the cliff. all of the taxes go up, but the democrats have an opportunity to introduce legislation to reduce the taxes for 98 percent of the people leaving the wealthier people, i guess you could call them wealthy, the top two percentage to stay at the high rates. it is possible to do this. lou: it is possible, but i have to ask you, surely te republicans have to undestand and had to understand six months ago what what transpired in this lam
my next guest is concerned that we are going over the fiscal cliff. he says, president obama seemingly is intent on pressing his post-election advantage to win tax increases on the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of th financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe they're going over the...
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a lot of other things in the fiscal cliff. i'm assuming as i say that, they don't just get rid of the mortgage deductability and not touch the rest of the tax code. obviously that would be really bizarre. housing has turned around. it's beginning to gain. the september data we saw, this is the point in the air when things begin to get soft because of the fall season and everything. tracy: sure. >> prices continue to rise. on a national basis and in most of the cities it resolved which is clear plus. the other reports, housing starts were up very sharply the last report. sales are doing better. sales of new homes are doing better. across the board most reports, not every report every month but just about all the data we're see something positive. and housing, housing is actually making a contribution to the economy. not like we would like but i think we'll take anything we can get. ashley: obviously the economy is so reliant on the consumer a big part of the economy. can they support the recovery? >> i think they can sort of ke
a lot of other things in the fiscal cliff. i'm assuming as i say that, they don't just get rid of the mortgage deductability and not touch the rest of the tax code. obviously that would be really bizarre. housing has turned around. it's beginning to gain. the september data we saw, this is the point in the air when things begin to get soft because of the fall season and everything. tracy: sure. >> prices continue to rise. on a national basis and in most of the cities it resolved which is...
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you have increased fears about fiscal cliff, increased fears about capital-gains taxs. that added another layer of selling. after that happened you have a bad looking chart and technical factors come in. if you saw a bounce-bacc from 505 to 590 last couple weeks that is profit-taking again. there is good chance people locked in even short term gains over the past month and really tried to take advantage of the better trade. liz: exactly. you can't deny there is great opportunity to take profits of the table. look at fundamentals of the company. if you looked on every kid in america's wish-list for christmas or hanukkah there is apple product on there. call it what it is. it is a popular, popular get for anybody, no matter what, the question becomes is it a trade where people believe now that because apple is now facing competition, okay, from the android tablets and kindle fire which is undeniably hot as well, maybe people are starting to let it worm in their brain that apple might not always be the number one toy? >> there is certainly a chance of that and i think goog
you have increased fears about fiscal cliff, increased fears about capital-gains taxs. that added another layer of selling. after that happened you have a bad looking chart and technical factors come in. if you saw a bounce-bacc from 505 to 590 last couple weeks that is profit-taking again. there is good chance people locked in even short term gains over the past month and really tried to take advantage of the better trade. liz: exactly. you can't deny there is great opportunity to take profits...
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rates. >> that seems to be the key to this entire fiscal cliff mess. president obama saying the roundtable was struck by ceo's willingness to pay higher taxes and patriotic duty and the president also talked about speculation they may want another death to inflate next year. he has to break that habit before it starts though it is of course up to congress to raise the debt ceiling by passing along. thank you. dennis: our next guest says they have the perfect solution for the financial woes. joining us now, one of those critical of the house speaker. thank you for being with us. let's just cut to the chase, what is your fix, sir? >> when you think fair share to the president's administration says, think flat tax. the president talks about warren buffett should pay with his secretary pays, but he is not proposed a single idea that will make that happen. we have the perfect idea. you want them to pay the same rate, i want them to pay the same rate, but i have a way to do it. you give a 15% flat tax on income taxed, capital gains, gift tax, to put it acros
rates. >> that seems to be the key to this entire fiscal cliff mess. president obama saying the roundtable was struck by ceo's willingness to pay higher taxes and patriotic duty and the president also talked about speculation they may want another death to inflate next year. he has to break that habit before it starts though it is of course up to congress to raise the debt ceiling by passing along. thank you. dennis: our next guest says they have the perfect solution for the financial...
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up next, the fiscal cliff. it is hung up on tax for the rich. not really. we will tell you why those taxes are going up regardless of the deal. tomorrow, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, moody's keep -- chief economists. best-selling author among our guest. please be with us. and as we go to break, here's a little christmas cheer. before pd... i took my son fishing every year. e had greaspot, not easy find, but worth it. butith copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it t helps significantly improe my lungunction starting within five nutes. sybicort doesn replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. with symbicort, today i'm breathing better. and thameans...fish on! symbicort is for copd including chronicnchitis and emphysema. it should n be taken rthan twice day. sybirt may increase your risk of lung fections, osteoporosis,s, d some eye problems. ll ur doct if you have a heart condition ohigh blood pressure before taking it. with copd, i thought i'd miss our family tradition now s
up next, the fiscal cliff. it is hung up on tax for the rich. not really. we will tell you why those taxes are going up regardless of the deal. tomorrow, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, moody's keep -- chief economists. best-selling author among our guest. please be with us. and as we go to break, here's a little christmas cheer. before pd... i took my son fishing every year. e had greaspot, not easy find, but worth it. butith copd making it hard to breathe, i thought those days...
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ashley: more ahead on the economy and oh, yeah, that fiscal cliff. ftn economist lindsey piegza says washington is ignoring a much bigger problem than tax rates on the wealthy. she will explain just ahead. tracy: fox business exclusive for one company that saw its stock double after hurricane sandy. generac's ceo joins us ahead. look how oil is trading right now, basically unchanged, $86.04 a barrel. we'll be right back. tracy: it is time to make some money with charles payne. this hour we're looking at a california-based tech company. charles spent a lot of time in cali. >> yes. i'm starting to learn cali. i'm not really impressed with los angeles. i know it is a different story. ashley: not sitting in your car it's great. >> i went to the museum to see the exhibit. fantastic. anyone in l.a. should go see it. sandisk is the stock. it is a stock, we played it before. it pulled back a lot lately. i'm not sure why it pulled back so much. lately they have been doing pretty well. last night they beat the street by 46%. next year fiscal earnings estimates
ashley: more ahead on the economy and oh, yeah, that fiscal cliff. ftn economist lindsey piegza says washington is ignoring a much bigger problem than tax rates on the wealthy. she will explain just ahead. tracy: fox business exclusive for one company that saw its stock double after hurricane sandy. generac's ceo joins us ahead. look how oil is trading right now, basically unchanged, $86.04 a barrel. we'll be right back. tracy: it is time to make some money with charles payne. this hour we're...
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the fiscal cliff is all about tax hikes. it is not about the spending cuts. then's a problem because we have sluggish growth and we have a spending problem and 16 trillion in debt and raising those taxes aren't going to fix our problems. i've never heard of taxing our way into prosperity. and so i don't understand why the discussion is centering so much around the hikes and not around cutting the spending, which is what we need to do. stuart: the president actually wants 50 billion in extra spending in the -- charles: he also wants the power to raise the debt willy-nilly whenever he wants. the g.o.p. lost that. they should have drawn that line in the sand a long time ago. it's always been about revenues. boehner's already given in on that. it's just how do we come to that numb number? here's the thing, the president isn't going to listen to anything outside of the oval office. what they are telling him, you have a mandate, you have a decisive victory, pound, pound, pound. stuart: i think he will have a tax increase on the rich, promise of spending cuts -- cha
the fiscal cliff is all about tax hikes. it is not about the spending cuts. then's a problem because we have sluggish growth and we have a spending problem and 16 trillion in debt and raising those taxes aren't going to fix our problems. i've never heard of taxing our way into prosperity. and so i don't understand why the discussion is centering so much around the hikes and not around cutting the spending, which is what we need to do. stuart: the president actually wants 50 billion in extra...
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and it recalls that fiscal cliff, but the deal of made a year and a half ago, the republicans, democrats and president signed off on this, allowing tax increases to go back in place. and they signed on to half a trillion in cuts, in domestic programs and half a trillion in defense, understand what this is as a conservative, defense is 16% of the budget. other 84% gets half a trillion, defense getting half a trillion. the democrats are welcoming this to happen. >> the guy who ran second to mitt romney, many argue now with -- i think this is -- republicans are running with tail between their legs, and they are a lighter blue. >> they are referred to as cheap democrats. neil: you are persona nongratta now. or party we knew is gone. >> i'm hoping that is not the case. i'm hoping we'll have new members come in. and you know, we -- just saw it, i got involved in not a fiscal thing but it had to do with a u.n. treaty that the left's to s to hoist on u.s. that thing was going to pass, we got involved, an organization that i run, patriot voices, we stirred up the pot, got people to pay attention.
and it recalls that fiscal cliff, but the deal of made a year and a half ago, the republicans, democrats and president signed off on this, allowing tax increases to go back in place. and they signed on to half a trillion in cuts, in domestic programs and half a trillion in defense, understand what this is as a conservative, defense is 16% of the budget. other 84% gets half a trillion, defense getting half a trillion. the democrats are welcoming this to happen. >> the guy who ran second to...
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. >> who of wants to pick this up do we go over the fiscal cliff? >> yes. probably. 55% to 60% and early january they strike some kind of deal that allows the administration to say there decreasing taxes from what they went to in january 1st. i say 60% we are going over the cliff. dave: we are playing with fire if that happens. a lot of people say even if it is temporary it might push us into recession. quickly, you think that is possible that we will? >> certainly possible. interesting the consensus have gone from 50% to 60%. a month or two ago we were not going to go over the cliff. i agree that is completely flipped on its head and the only president in recent memory who headed debt ceiling in summer of 2011, all through july everyone was confident we were going to get a deal and we saw what happened. a little bit of cash on the sidelines to reload the. of the goal of the cliff, is not a bad thing for investors. dave: still a scary time. the possibility that we could go into recession as a result of that. thank you very much. michael, phil, we will check
. >> who of wants to pick this up do we go over the fiscal cliff? >> yes. probably. 55% to 60% and early january they strike some kind of deal that allows the administration to say there decreasing taxes from what they went to in january 1st. i say 60% we are going over the cliff. dave: we are playing with fire if that happens. a lot of people say even if it is temporary it might push us into recession. quickly, you think that is possible that we will? >> certainly possible....
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this is a game of chicken, which i think is designed to go over the fiscal cliff, and pin the blame on the republicans, i understand why the president is doing it for political reasons but i don't think that the republicans have to surrender themselves in this game of chicken. lou: it seems the ultimatum, raise taxes on top 2%, why not let him eat to, it is his decision, go for it, if you don't want a mature, and intelligence, and responsible negotiation, you do not know who you are dealing with, it is called a constitutional body of government. >> it is john's right, this is politics, hard and fast, 1995 all over again, stakes are high and and president wants house back, pin the blame on the republicans make them look like right wing lunatics and grab the chips, they are in a no-win position. lou: we'll be back, marianne has to weigh in and a bunch more as we continue with the a team stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the merced
this is a game of chicken, which i think is designed to go over the fiscal cliff, and pin the blame on the republicans, i understand why the president is doing it for political reasons but i don't think that the republicans have to surrender themselves in this game of chicken. lou: it seems the ultimatum, raise taxes on top 2%, why not let him eat to, it is his decision, go for it, if you don't want a mature, and intelligence, and responsible negotiation, you do not know who you are dealing...